LETTER TO THE EDITOR: Suppressing vote not in God’s plan
by TOMMIE KELLY, Cave Spring
Sep 13, 2012 | 3395 views | 16 16 comments | 12 12 recommendations | email to a friend | print
NOW LET’S TRY to be fair, please. The prayer, “God bless America” was prayed after almost every speech in both political conventions.

So since we all claim to trust in God, how come the Republicans are trying so hard to suppress the voting by minorities in certain states, which by the way might be called cheating and stealing, instead of just allowing God to see that we get the “correct” result from the voting?

Honestly, anybody who thinks one political party is “more Christian” than the other is really indulging in an awful lot of wishful thinking.

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wish2010
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September 17, 2012
Let me see if I understand your meaning. God has a plan for the outcome of the next presidential election. But if Voter IDs are required to be eligible to vote then God's plan will not happen. Thus, Republicans who want to insure the validity of all votes cast are somehow trumping God's plan.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Either you're very simple minded or you've had too much of the Obama cool-aid.
3isEnough
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September 16, 2012
Tommie, your editorial is insulting to minorities. Your excuse plays out as minorities are unable to get an ID because they are either #1 too poor to afford one or #2 to ignorant to obtain an ID. Are you saying whites are far more intelligent and have the means to afford and ID? Think about this argument. Every time hear this, I want to scream WAKE UP SHEEP! Georgia has free ID's to vote. Those without birth certificates have the ability to get an ID to vote. Heck, how did these people get someplace to even register to vote when they supposedly have no access to get to the BMV office to get an ID ??? But lets say there are access issues. Let's just then invest in that purple ink and everyone gets their thumb inked when they vote. But I still think someone will complain this is intrusive.
SillyRoman
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September 17, 2012
The appropriate argument to this is to say that the minorities are poorer because of systematic oppression, not because of lack of intelligence...
3isEnough
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September 17, 2012
SillyRoman, would an appropriate argument to your post is to say that minorities are the victims of poor social policy focused on keeping them oppressed and enslaved? But still, I find it odd to use 'poor minorities and seniors' as an excuse why we cannot require an ID. Yet, many of these groups NEED an ID to cash checks and get government services. By not helping these 'underserved populations' secure a state ID we are not helping them obtain services they are probably eligible to obtain. And one more argument, could the ID you used to register to vote still be considered an acceptable form of ID to vote?

{{ a driver's license or other photo ID, a current utility bill, a paycheck stub or another government document showing your name and address such as your passport. }} but then again, these forms of ID might not be available to let's say a homeless person, so how could that person even legally register to vote ????
Trelicious
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September 17, 2012
systematic oppression like that of the Jews? we know how poor they all are.
dbeall
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September 16, 2012
I will try to explain this so that even those with the most difficulty can understand. If a valid legal ID is not required to vote, one can vote repeatedly in multiple districts by claiming to be someone else. One can vote as one's self and then maybe vote as one's dead father who has recently passed away and has not been removed from the rolls. One can move right before election time and produce two different power bills; each showing a different address and vote twice. There are numerous ways to commit voter fraud.

Now if you say "There is no evidence that voter fraud is occurring," perhaps you should consider that those who wish to commit voter fraud do not do it openly. They keep it a secret. Just because it isn't discovered does not mean that it is not occurring.

It is not difficult to obtain an ID. If you are so lacking in ability that you cannot get yourself to the DMV one time within FOUR YEARS to obtain an ID, then in my opinion, you need to stay home on election day.
rhuidean07
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September 15, 2012
LiedToAgainAndAgain,

Great hyperbolic rant...Now what does it have to do with Voter ID.

You claim to have all this proof....so come on produce it...

As for race I will simply quote Republican Senator Lindsey Graham.

"“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

--Washington Post, August 29, 2012.

Now I take this comment and combine it with Turazi's statement. Then rationally conclude that my analysis of this issue is accurate.

Your making more and more frantic insults and homilies to make you feel better is not a viable answer.

So if you have verifiable data that voter fraud has influenced a SINGLE election...EVER then come on man up and provide it.

I stand by my belief that the GOP/TP is currently dominated by religious right wing loons. The ignorant mouth breathers are controlled by politicians using race and fear.

Try as much as you can the facts are still facts.

Rhuidean
3isEnough
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September 17, 2012
ABC News report this year, 40 people charged with voter fraud.

Google is a wonderful thing.

Voting is a right and a privilege. and there is fraud, but how much we do not really know.
LiedToAgainAndAgain
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September 15, 2012
Yaaaawwwnnn...Rather boring blather, rhuidean07. Rather tired and old responses...predictable..right?

Folks, old Rhudi the racist (constant hatred and attacks on those who were unfortunate enough to be born white, according to the Great Bigoted One 07)...swore that there are only rare instances of voter fraud, and when presented with over a thousand in 2008 in the Minnesota election alone, he runs and hides and swerves in another direction. Rather pathetic typical liberal behavior, right?

Rhuidean07 is the typical liberal elitist Plantation Owner, "yes, suh...you be knowin' what's best fuh the rest of us, suh." Worst kind of hate-filled racist, one who panders to the rest of the population, thinking that he's better than everyone else.

we've been lied to again and again by these idiots like rhudi, who believe that the common man is basically a moron who needs to have government be his caretaker, as long as it's Big Rhudi being in charge.

Rhuidean constantly makes race an issue, hating all whites...period. Makes me wonder if rhuidean is just another Al Sharpton wannabe. Al Sharpton? Yep, that's old Rhudi, all fuss and bluster, snide comments, and race baiting all the way through.

ROFLMWHO!
rhuidean07
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September 15, 2012
LiedToAgainAndAgain

Your response is both predictable and expected. The belief that the reason the right wing loses elections is because of voter fraud sacrosanct.

You Wrote:As far as voter fraud goes, it's prevalent everywhere. In the Coleman vs. Al Franken senate race in Minnesota, 1,099 convicted felons voted....guess who probably received those votes? Frankken, and that's a no-brainer.

I reply: Really? You mean the allegations from Minnesota majority? The wackaloon rightwing group?

Here's the Minnesota Post on Voter Fraud.

http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2012/08/cases-voter-id-election-fraud-found-virtually-non-existent

You mention 177 convictions...Out of 300 Million Yes Million Americans...

Here are the words of Mike Turazi...He's the GOP leader in Pennsylvania. A state which enacted one of the strictest Voter ID laws in the country.

"Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done," he said to applause at a Republican State Committee"

You see everyone knows the Voter ID BS is really just an attempt to take away the rights of minorities.

I do understand the desire of the GOP to try and level the field...

When the GOP demonizes Immigrants, African Americans, latino's, Asians and anyone not white and Christians the backlash is expected.

If all the groups your policies alienate vote then the GOP/TP will never win another election.

Tell me will your head explode when President Obama wins?

What excuse will you make then? Who will you blame it on?

The demographics of America are changing and soon the GOP/TP in it's present incarnation will be dead.

Just today God's poster boy Rick Santorum said:

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side"

heheheheheheh...

Rhuidean

LiedToAgainAndAgain
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September 15, 2012
Gyges and Watchingit, once again, rhuidean07 is lying fast and quick using false claims and quotes from liberal blogs. This time he cited a liberal source who's best known for his left wingnut book "Herding Donkey's." Real reliable source, right?

As far as voter fraud goes, it's prevalent everywhere. In the Coleman vs. Al Franken senate race in Minnesota, 1,099 convicted felons voted....guess who probably received those votes? Frankken, and that's a no-brainer.

177 people have been convicted -- not just accused, but convicted -- of voting fraudulently in the Senate race. Another 66 are awaiting trial.

And those are just the ones they've gone after so far!

Rhuidean07 is just another typical activist liberal cutting and pasting from lying liberal sources....No cases of fraud, yeah...right. Minnesota is just one RECENT casy, and it blows your lying "facts" right out of the water, you Libertard!

Oooohhh...you're gonna "waah waah" me again, and put in your insults once more.

Keep up the crying, dude.

Soon2bmimi is right...you guys talk big because of your inadequacies in other male areas!

ROFLMHO!
rhuidean07
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September 15, 2012
Gyges,

You Wrote: It doesnt take much research to find case after case of Democraps convicted or voter fraud. Of course the DEMS like organized groups like ACORN to do that type of dirty work for them but of course who would even be involved with such a group? Oh yeah Obama!

I reply: Really? Is that all you can say to defend your argument. Here's some data for you. A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop. Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility. A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud. "Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert. A 2007 report by the Brennan Center for Justice, a leading advocate for voting rights at the New York University School of Law, quantified the problem in stark terms. "It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning," the report calculated, "than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls." Source DOJ April 2012.

Now I now that no matter how much data is provided all the mouth breathing Obama haters will never change their tune.

BTW insults and idiotic anger does not help your argument.

Rhuidean

Watchingit
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September 15, 2012
Rhuidean,

Whose Justice Dept investigated? Obama’s.

Stephen Colbert? I really like him for the comedian that he is.

Brennan Center for Justice? Current head is the former Director of Speechwriting for Bill Clinton.

Nonpartisan? The Center was established by the family of Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan, Jr. known as a leader of the Court’s liberal wing. It involves itself in voting rights and redistricting among other things. People can judge for themselves.
rhuidean07
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September 15, 2012
LiedToAgainAndAgain,

As usual you are completely incorrect in your statements about voter fraud.

Investigation after investigation in state after state reveal that actual cases of voter fraud account for less than .01% of .01% of voters.

In Pennsylvania the state admitted there have been no recent prosecutions or even investigations of in-person voter fraud.

Yet they are attempting to deny voters their rights by requiring an ID that remarkably only lower income minority voters do not have. Imagine that coincidence

Not.......

No the Democrats are not committing fraud but the Republicans have no problems doing it.

From Arizona:

A Pinal County supervisor candidate has withdrawn from the race in the wake of voter-fraud allegations involving a former companion who, records show, has continued to vote by absentee ballot in the five years since her death. John Enright, 66, had been seeking the Republican nomination for county supervisor of District 5, an area that includes Apache Junction and Gold Canyon.

And From Michigan:

Four congressional aides to Michigan Republican U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter have been indicted for falsifying nominating petitions for McCotter's 2012 re-election bid, Michigan’s Republican Attorney General Bill Schuette announced Thursday.

You see the only voter fraud criminals are the Republicans and the racists within the GOP/TP who use this code language to motivate the ignorant and gullible....

Hey...You have self-identified with this demographic before....

Dude.....You need to turn off Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and FOX then start reading and studying...

Being low information can be fixed by using all two of your brain cells....



Rhuidean

LiedToAgainAndAgain
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September 14, 2012
We shouldn't have to show ID to vote. In fact. most of the people who vote Democrat have no ID about who they be votin' for, anyways.

I agree with the Democrats. We ought to be able to vote for Obama 5, 6 or 7 times....whatever is necessary...to get Obama elected again.

It's our right...right?
bullydogg
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September 13, 2012
You are WAY OFF track SIR????...SINGINGGGGG God Bless America has NOTHING to do with your Racist accusation.

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